I can't stand to read the FFF forums -- it makes me sick that professing Christians would speak that way to each other. With such foul accusations and rudeness..... It's just weird....the people who think they are the centre of the world, I mean....
The ...churches of the type I'm familiar with are a) autonomous; and b) do not have pastors, but rather a group of teaching elders. So when an elder or a well-known preacher is caught in a serious sin, it generally remains within a single congregation, and is usually dealt with by the other elders and the congregation. [plurality of eldership---ed]....
The misogyny [in the IFB-KJVO-FFF culture---ed] is really horrible, and something I'm not familiar with at all....I have NEVER heard anyone speak contemptuously or rudely about women or to women in the way that these IFB people do.
"It would be wonderful if someone would [speak out against child molesting from pulpits---ed.]….However, … this sin is merely the most horrific manifestation of the lack of accountability ….The root of the problem is that somehow these men think they can get away with it, because nobody can challenge "the man of God".
I for one would be more impressed if one of these IFB-KJB… pastors pointed out the Biblical pattern of a plurality of Biblically qualified elders, whom the Pastor and all other people in the assembly are accountable to…. Pastors might still commit adultery, child molesting, wife abuse and other terrible sins (for the sin nature is still present), but it would reduce the number of men giving into their sinful cravings, and it would reduce the overall number of incidents in the church as a whole. I could also add that we would see new power in preaching, real evangelism, strong churches, etc. (rather than a corrupt edifice focusing on "the man of God" and "soul winning").
Anyway, that's my 2 cents.
![]() | Secret Radio
Secret Radio has posted two new episodes over the last two days. I've been doing the editing on the new series (more than 20 new episodes), and it looks like the blogspot roster system is working. Apparently you can upload files and post date them so that on the given day you just log in and click the Publish button, and the new file that you uploaded a week ago is made part of the visible blog for readers. Using this method, the series has been rostered through early February (don't know the date). So if you are reading it, you should have a more consistent reading schedule (Monday through Friday). |
![]() | The Leaders are Angry
Quite a hullabaloo is going on in the FFF. Apparently the guilty consciences of a lot of the preachers have been stung by my repeated rebukes against them for their failure to protect the flock of God by preaching against the sins of child molestation. There is a rising number of instances of the problem in IFB-KJVO churches. And the defense I am hearing is that the problem occurs only in Hyles-affiliated churches. But as I argued this with Pappa Bear, he pointed out that Jack Hyles was engaging in his affair with Jenny Nischik before Hyles went KJVO. And then it clicked. We both probably accept that Hyles was a corrupt man and a cynic regarding Scriptural authority. He would go in whatever direction gave him the best advantage. |
![]() | Second visit to the gym to lift weights
One of the best exercises for a bad back like mine is the rhomboid row. Your rhomboids are a set of muscles on either side of your spine, right between the shoulder blades. Not real big muscles, but they are the muscles that keep you straight (or help to). When you see men or women who have developed a permanent slouch with rounded sholders or even a hump from poor muscle strength in back, it's the rhomboids that are over stretched and weak. (picture from http://www.greenapple.com/~jorp/amzanim/animsport.htm) |
| I am allowed to do only four exercises with weights (three sets each). So I did lower back extensions, a seated pull on a Hammer machine that works the mid-back close to the rhomboids, squats on a Smith machine, and the slant-bench rhomboid rows. Then I came home and hung upside down. My back is sore, and it cracked a lot as I stretched onthe inversion table, but overall I feel pretty good. | ![]() |
![]() | The Dissenting View from Pappa Bear
Well, I *was* going to put up two posts of a well-argued point (that I still disagree with) in which a poster names PappaBear draws a sharp line of distinction between his segment of IFB-KJB and the Hyles-affiliated segment (which he says is the corrupt side of the IFB-KJB movement). But he has told me he would rather keep his posts on the forum. So, Okay. If you want to see his dissenting view, you'll have to go to the FFF and check the Hyles-Anderson Forum. Look for "PappaBear" as the poster, and his posts are entitled "BASS" (my abbreviated screen name). |
![]() | Happy New Year
Once again, I have failed to make it to Midnight on New year's Eve. I got to 10:00 PM and was so sleepy I couldn't see straight. I've been working 6-day weeks since early December, so I am taking off today and tomorrow to rest, catch up on a writing project or two, and de-stress by physical exercise. the throat spasms had slacked off quite a bit but started to bother me Tuesday and Wednesday of this week, so I am being more careful. |
![]() | So what is "KJV-Only?
Without going too deeply into the history of this movement within fundamentalism, "KJV-Only" is a belief that the King James Version of the Bible is the single best (or only acceptable) text to use in the preaching and study of God's Word. There are differentiations within the group: |
| Erasmus himself, though a pioneer in bringing Greek into university studies at the dawn of the English Reformation, admitted that he was far better at Latin. Indeed, Erasmus was a master of Latin and was one of the few men who brought that language to its height in early Renaissance writing. His Greek text definitely marked the end of the domination of the Vulgate, and Erasmus championed translating the Greek text into common languages so that all people could read the Bible. But he knew that his Greek text had some holes in it, because questions about his translation and word choices dogged him, and he produced revisions. Erasmus's Greek text was a cornerstone of the English Reformation, and Tyndale used a later version that Erasmus produced for his great work of English translation. | ![]() |
1. A mandate that an English Bible must be the supreme translation of all languages shows an incredible provincialism (that the English language is destined to be the ultimate language of the Bible, when the Bible was completed and the canon closed well before the English language ever existed as a distinct language);
2. The idea that any English translation can equivalently hold the ideas conveyed in Hebrew and/or Greek shows a lack of knowledge of languages. Plain and simple, English is not an equal receptacle for the ideas presented in the Hebrew and Greek. Every English translation---any English translation---will fail to capture the exact meaning word for word from the original languages because English lacks the semantic distinctions of Hebrew and Greek and lacks the verb tense forms to convey an equivalent meaning
3. Positing that a Bible translation promoted by the homosexual and papist-leaning King James, who believed himself the Head of the Church in England and persecuted anybody who disputed that claim effectively, shows a lack of the knowledge of history. King James wanted a Bible that would undercut the Geneva Bible and its copious notes on salvation, because he wanted to be the undisputed head of the Church of England. He wanted one Bible, one English Church (something that encompassed both Protestants and Papists and allowed them a measure of latitude), and he wanted no Puritans to disrupt the England that he envisioned. When KJB-ers grovel and fawn on the image of King James, they are off in their la-la land of gross ignorance of history.
Edward Quakenbush (KJVO-KJB, HAC affiliated), of New Testament Baptist Church, raping a 14 year old boy, convicted.
Andy Beith, principal of Liberty Baptist Academy in NW Indiana - sex with an 11 year old girl. Sentenced to 30 years, parole in 11.
Beith's father, also a graduate of HAC, was arrested His father was arrested a few years prior for soliciting an undercover officer in a local park. Made for interesting headlines. Imagine a Baptist pastor being arrested for such a thing. The media made the most of it, of course. [As they should have.]
Kerry was the name of the missionary who squabbled over the Spanish Bible and went to prison for molesting a little girl.
Calvin Stone, a HAC short timer sent to prison for molesting a little girl.
Overla, a HAC grad/pastor who pleaded guilty to molesting an 8 year old girl
Chester Mulligan, who is charged with molested a 14 year old girl. (Honrary doctorate from HAC)
Pastor Joe Combs, (found guilty) former HAC Bible teacher, molesting, raping adopted daughter
Evangeline Combs (assault, not sexual), torture and assault of adopted daughter
Associate Pastor Timothy Lee Leonard, (charged but acquitted because child-witnesses unable to testify)
Deacon Mark Foeller, (indicted but acquitted because witnesses refused to testify)
Deacon A.V. Ballenger, (found guilty) molesting a little girl
Youth Pastor Jeffrey Jerrell,
Administrator Joseph R. Strang
pastors Caleb Thompson (assault against a child, not sexual) ,
Joshua Thompson (assault against a child, not sexual).
All of those men have been charged with shameful crimes: an assortment of rape, child molestation, sodomy, and assault. And then, of course, there's Dave Hyles, elite adulterer and pornographer, also a product of that movement. He must have learned adultery at his father's knee, of course, because Jack was an old and experienced hand at it, and he also got off by bluster. Dave spent several years at Pinellas Park Baptist Church AFTER having been expelled from Miller Road Baptist Church. He declared that he had repented and exercised some deception, though the church leadership at PPBT failed to enforce Biblical discipline.
This failure to obey the Word of God that they claimed to follow is somewhat understandable in consideration of the fact that the leadership was at that time in the "hundred percenter" segment of IFB-KJVO that followed Jack Hyles, Dave's father. They looked for words from Dave, made him write a letter of apology (a single letter, though he had engaged in affairs with over a dozen women). There was no longterm discipling, no accountability, no continuing effort to keep him---a man who had engaged in rampant sexual perversions that were no secret---under the care of church leadership. Needless to say, Dave strung along the leadership of PPBT for as long as they stayed gullible, which amounted to several years. They then caught him in gross sin, expelled him, and he went to Berean Baptist Church in Orange Park, Florida (another hundred percenter church), a predator now loose again, where he was admitted into membership without church discipline being enforced. He was later expelled from that church.
![]() | Another IFB-KJVO Preacher Arrested for Child Molesting
Chester Mulligan, formerly a pastor in East Chicago (a stone's throw from Hammond,Ind), and a recipient of a Hyles-Anderson honorary doctorate, has been arrested in Oklahoma on charges of having relations with a 14 year old girl. The alleged victim, now 20, has come forward. Mulligan is awaiting extradition back to Indiana. He has been advertised as IFB-KJVO on several KJVO-church web site directories. |
![]() | Secret Radio to return January 2
A post on the famous FFF has confirmed that Secret Radio will be broadcasting more adventures from Greater Independent Baptist College, starting January 2. Looks like a more consistent broadcast schedule is being attempted, with new broadcasts on January 2 and 3, and then daily on weekdays on a M-F basis. |
![]() | Back to the Gym
Well, at last I am able to get over menopause problems enough to go back to the gym and start following the advice given me by both my family doctor and chiropractor. I started lifting weights again this morning, with a focus on strengthening my back. First (at home), I did five minutes on my stair stepper, then hung upside down on my inversion table for five minutes. Then I did five minutes again on the stair stepper and then hung upside down again. All of this is in consideration of my tricky back. But by the end of the two sets I felt warmed up and loosened up along my spine. |
![]() | Jack Hyles and Friedrich Nietzsche, Part Three
5. As far as I know, Nietzsche never taught that people were to be abandoned to the forces of nature. However, the Nietzschien view of the Superman and his morality being self-defined lead to such a reading of Nietzschien ethics. Victims are victims because they lack the superman qualities to survive.Ie, victims are victims because Nature did not give them the qualities to adapt and progress. |
![]() | 5b.In the Hyles-Nietzschien system, the pastor is the Nietzschien Superman who looks within himself for enlightenment and the means to interpret Scripture. The Bible is the adjunct, not the authority: the common language by which he speaks to the herd. But he re-interprets the Bible according to his own intuitive morality and leanings. This Pastor-centered church is the reason that Hyles' teachings on the Bible (when he got to the Bible at all) were often contradictory or outright heresy. As the Superman, Hyles did not consider himself under the authority of the consensus of Christian scholarship. As he told his own people, they were expected to do what he said because he was their pastor. |
![]() | Half Magic
I have a friend at work who has a six year old daughter. Jodi reads to her daughter Andi regularly, and so I have filled her with tons of information and recommendations on great children's books. (I used to work in publishng.) On my recommendation, she read Charlie and the Chocolate Factory to Andi. So to encourage Jodi and keep her well stocked on great books, I went to our local non-franchised bookstore (Quail Ridge books at Ridgeway Shopping Center in Raleigh) and purchased A Wrinkle in Time and The Lion the Witch, and the Wardrobe. The sales assistant and I got to chatting about great books, and I commented that I love the Moffat series. She recommended Edward Eager's book, Half Magic, which is a story about four children who find a magic coin that grants HALF of each wish. So to get what you want, you have to wish for twice as much. I purchased a copy for myself. |
![]() | Conquering Chocolate
Christmas has come and gone, and after three unsuccessful attempts to get chocolate wrapped and given away (I kept eating it), I succeeded in giving Scharffen Berger chocolates to my friends at work. The smallest bars cost $1.59. I gave them in lieu of Christmas cards. Just stuck a bow on them and passed them out. In the meantime, a friend gave me a box of Lindt Chocolate truffles, and they are incredible. Two hundred calories per truffle! Oh dear, why is Christmas so fattening? Or, as Homer says, why are all the good things so tasty? You can buy Scharffen Berger chocolates at www.chocosphere.com (This is a reference, not an endorsement. I've never bought from them.) |
![]() | The Emergency Preparedness FAQ
With the terror alert now on High, you may want to check the Emergency Preparedness FAQ. I created this by means of thorough research and generous help from the survival-gurus on the newsgroup misc.survivalism. They sent information, reviewed the FAQs, and encouraged the process so that Americans could find information on the web to prepare for emergency situations. You'll find information on basic preparedness, emergency survival, the basics of chemical and biological agents, and URLs of suppliers and information sources. Many readers choose to print these FAQs and keep them in a notebook. Recommended as an info source by Time Magazine's online e-zine,On, and by salon.com. |
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