Re-print of part of a Thread in the Oklahoma Bible College Forum of the FFF

Re: and then JAV woke up.... Posted by Winterpen on Feb-18-04 4:05am (In reply to: and then JAV woke up.... posted by IMRIGHTUKNOWIT on Feb-18-04 12:12am)

I'm reposting this as I think it may have been lost in the chatter.

The actions ascribed to JAV are seriously, if not criminally, aggressive.
If the young lady was a minor when he alledgedly talked to her in this fashion, then he should have been reported to the authorities.

Secondly, it sounds as if this may not have been the only incident. If so, then JAV is serial in his actions.

Thirdly, and the most alarming, it appears that he does not bother grooming the women or girls to lead up to these conversations. That suggests an aggressiveness that is out of control and makes me wonder what else he does or is capable of.
The behavior also shows a clear disregard of women or young girls as human beings, a sign of a sociopath.

Finally, the actions discussed in this forum are the marks of sick and criminal behavior. If he was having these conversations with staff or even people outside of his employment, he is guilty of sexual harassment. There are clear federal laws forbiding these types of discussions. While I'm not sure how the laws relate to clergy, I think he is making himself liable for a sexual harassment suit.

No one should speak in this manner to a young girl and I would even include a male member of the family. It is just not wise.

The model of the 'Power Rapist' Posted by Graces BLOG on Feb-18-04 9:53am (In reply to: Re: and then JAV woke up.... posted by Winterpen on Feb-18-04 4:05am)

According to a study done on rape histories, rapists can be categorized as chiefly motivated by anger, power, or sadism. The Power Rapist usually isn't obsessed with harming his victim, but rather possessing her---expressing both power and claiming some type of relationship with his victim through what he does.

The characteristics of the Power rapist are obsessional thoughts of an incredibly satisfactory sexual encounter of dominance, and "masturbatory fantasies about sexual conquest". But the Power Rapist never finds his fantasy in real life; it's too exaggerated, too improbable. And so his behaviors become repetitive. He keeps repeating his assaults on new victims as he searches for that perfect encounter that makes him feel adequate and powerful.

Denial of what he's done is very strong in the Power rapist. He usually insists that his assault on a woman was consensual, or that he had a right to do it, or that she needed it. He has fantasies that his assault created a bond between him and his victim, that she's grateful, or that she departs from him wiser and more prepared to engage in mature sexual relationships.

The power fantasies and forced encounters of the Power Rapist often accompany an outwardly normal life of consensual sex with a spouse or life partner. The Power Rapist creates an image of himself that he must maintain, so it is not unusual for a Power rapist to be a married man with children.

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Men Who Rape: The Psychology of the Offender. A. Nicholas Groth. Plenum press, New York. 1981.
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The Georgia Network on Sexual Assault ascribes the following characteristics to the "Power [assertive style] Rapist":

He has a macho image and the most important thing to him is that he be seen as such.
He is very self-centered and does not like to be under the control of others.
He drinks a "masculine drink" and hangs out at clubs, bars, and locations where he finds his victim. [That could include a church--ed]
He takes pride in his appearance.
There is a history of conflict with women because of his selfish behavior.

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According to Virginia Law Enforcement training, the Power-Assertive rapist uses only as much force as is necessary to get what he wants, and often he can gain what he wants merely by intimidation. Harming his victim is not his goal because his fantasy is that he pleases women. However, he has no real concern for his victims and discards them without concern for what he has done to them. He's as remorseless as any rapist, but his vanity causes him to live out a more elaborate fantasy.

This type of rapist sees himself as a macho man.
His language is a key part of his assault. He "talks dirty" to his victim.
He takes pride in a physical image of being macho.
He is usually married because being married and the head of his home is a part of his required macho image. His wife either leave him or is subjugated by him. If a wife successfully leaves him, his ego requires him to marry again.

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According to the Mid-Valley Women's Crisis Center (Oregon), Sexual Offenders often have the following characteristics:

Above The Rules
He believes he is better than other people. He views himself as having unique gifts or abilities or experiences that enable him to understand what he does (or justify what he does).

Making Fools Of Others
He manipulates the people aroudn him in order to maintain control, and he uses tactics to keep those in his circle humiliated or subjugated.

Fragmentation
He keeps his assaultive behavior separate from the rest of his life, compartmentalized. He does not view the wrong that he does as contradicting the values he believes that he lives by.

Minimizing
He insists that the harm that he's done is not the big issue that others claim it to be.

Anger
He is no angrier than anybody else, but he uses anger to intimidate and control peopel who would challenge him or make legal complaints against him. He appears to be a tremendously angry person, btu this is a tool to maintain control.

Power Plays
He uses power any way that he can get it: manipulating others to ostracize those who oppose him or cry rape, using any office that he holds to gain leverage over others, name dropping or working himself into the good graces of people more powerful than he in order to appear powerful.

Playing Victim
Just as he uses anger as a tool, he also claims that he is being persecuted. He claims that the cry of rape is really part of an evil conspiracy or a means to bring him down from jealousy or hatred from others.

Drama And Excitement
Instead of developing close relationships, he deliberately chooses not to share in emotional intimacy with others. Instead, he stirs up people and plays them off against each other. He likes to set up high energy situations that result in uproar.

Closed Channel
"He is secretive, close-minded, and self-righteous. He believes he is right in all situations."

Ownership
"The sexual offender typically is very possessive. Moreover, he believes that anything he wants should be his, and anything that is his he can do with as he pleases. That attitude applies to people as well as to possessions. It justifies his controlling behavior, physically abusive behavior, and taking others' possessions."

Self-Glorification
"The sexual offender usually thinks of himself as strong, superior, independent, self-sufficient, and very masculine. His idea of the ideal man often is the cowboy or the adventurer type. Any action or perceived attitude of another person that does not conform to his glorified self-image is seen as a putdown."